They discuss the FDA premarket tobacco product application (PMTA) regulatory process and how they’ve ignored the facts when it comes to vape. It may not seem to be of concern for cigar smokers, but when the FDA ignores fact to lump everything into ‘tobacco’ then cigar smokers should pay attention. They smoke the Rocky Patel ALR Second Edition and drink the Jameson Stout Edition. They then trail off about other topics, but that’s how conversations go.